Alan: No. When it comes right down
to it, no, there is no significant
difference. I did, however, have a
history there. The other difference
is that I was mainly putting up routes
that were pushing the standard.

The biggest difference, I'd say,
between these routes now and the
routes done in the late 80's, when
new routes were going up at a similar
pace, is the level of difficulty.
Nothing is being done, from an
area historical perspective, that
is significant as far as difficulty is
concerned. There is some historical significance in developing the
Marsupials, for instance.

But, as far as difficulty, there is
nothing whatsoever that's being done
that is hard. In a lot of ways, that's
great. Most of the people who climb
at Smith Rock are not doing 5.13 or
5.14 or even 5.12. They're doing the
easier routes.

This is the end of part five of the
interview with Alan Watts. Part six
starts on Page 25.

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